....Not exactly. It didn't actually say much of use, I suppose, ultimately. It objected to Estinien going to Achamoth, and when I spoke to it it was... Despondent, I guess is how I'd describe it?
Huh. [Well, he supposes he can see why it doesn't want Estinien to go to Achamoth. But:] There's no choice as long as the Regent has Mr. Nightroad and Himeka.
[...No. Maybe he should stop calling the entity, whoever or whatever she is, 'it'. There'd been a distinct, single voice at the end there. And he must needs change his perspective on their interactions, if he's going to get through to her.]
I don't think she sees their retrieval as vital. Or... Or even possible, at this stage...
[She'd told him he was the last of the Promised left.]
I agree! Wholeheartedly. And I did try to impress that upon her, that they weren't a lost cause, but... Then she 'impressed' upon me a rather heavy history of her struggles...
[He's trying to avoid dumping the full deets of the endless cycle of struggle and death and suffering the entity had conveyed to him, but. Woof.]
Between you and me... Her power could be a great boon to the rescue effort. But I fear for what that might mean for Ser Estinien, if she were to take hold of him once more. That's largely why I'd hoped to speak to her further.
I don't know for certain, but that seems to be the case. It's difficult for me to get any straight answers out of her; I think at least in part because she's... Displeased with me, for not upholding the promise we struck, I suppose...
I guess that makes sense. But if we want her to help, I don't know if 'back off' is going to do any good. [Even if she SHOULD.] When I was... completely infected, it didn't mess with my memories any. So maybe that's something that she can refrain from?
Right... Yet she hasn't punished or rebuked you at all since then...
[Maybe because unlike Estinien, Yuya has managed to stay out of trouble...?]
...I wonder if perhaps she might be more amenable to discussion with someone other than Estinien or myself. She seems to be a bit emotionally charged, when it comes to the two of us.
[Well. Mostly when it comes to Estinien. And Ryunosuke bringing up the effect she has on Estinien.]
[He's rueful about it, but in an amused way. Realistically it probably hasn't been THAT many times that he's attempted to talk to it-- HER-- but it sure feels like a lot, and it seems like he's left with more questions than he'd started with, each time he does.]
Besides the obvious of what we've already discussed, I have to admit I just... Find myself curious. Who or what is she, really?
[He sighs.]
I know it's... It's silly of me to wonder these things, when we have much larger problems at hand, but. For as much trouble as she's caused... Ugh, you mustn't tell Estinien this, please, but. I think... She may very well have saved both our lives. And while I don't approve of her using him the way she did...
[...]
...I just feel I owe her some kind of understanding, at the very least.
[It's obvious that she's suffering greatly, and who knows for how long she's had to deal with that on her own...]
... I don't know if she'll talk to me--[He doesn't see himself as having a very strong connection to her, all in all.] But if you think someone else with you might calm things down...
[At least, by forcing Ryunosuke to have a cooler head and not upset her again.]
[Ryu's surprised by the suggestion, but then falls quiet.]
I... That's not a terrible idea, actually, but... It could prove dangerous. I'm not sure I could ask you in good conscience to put yourself at risk like that...
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[...No. Maybe he should stop calling the entity, whoever or whatever she is, 'it'. There'd been a distinct, single voice at the end there. And he must needs change his perspective on their interactions, if he's going to get through to her.]
I don't think she sees their retrieval as vital. Or... Or even possible, at this stage...
[She'd told him he was the last of the Promised left.]
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Well, we're never going to agree on that. I know Estinien is the same. We can't leave them to die there.
[Or worse.]
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[He's trying to avoid dumping the full deets of the endless cycle of struggle and death and suffering the entity had conveyed to him, but. Woof.]
Between you and me... Her power could be a great boon to the rescue effort. But I fear for what that might mean for Ser Estinien, if she were to take hold of him once more. That's largely why I'd hoped to speak to her further.
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I guess she can't appear by herself right now? It has to be through Estinien?
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I don't know if 'displeased' is entirely accurate for the way she treats Estinien... Or at least, she's not displeased with us in the same way.
She's. She almost seems more like an overprotective mother to him...? Whereas the rest of us have been designated his caretakers.
[To be screamed at if they let her baby boy get hurt.]
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[He's surprised by that. Glad, but... Surprised.]
Remind me, did she speak to you at all, when you were in that state?
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[Maybe because unlike Estinien, Yuya has managed to stay out of trouble...?]
...I wonder if perhaps she might be more amenable to discussion with someone other than Estinien or myself. She seems to be a bit emotionally charged, when it comes to the two of us.
[Well. Mostly when it comes to Estinien. And Ryunosuke bringing up the effect she has on Estinien.]
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... What do you want to ask her?
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[He's rueful about it, but in an amused way. Realistically it probably hasn't been THAT many times that he's attempted to talk to it-- HER-- but it sure feels like a lot, and it seems like he's left with more questions than he'd started with, each time he does.]
Besides the obvious of what we've already discussed, I have to admit I just... Find myself curious. Who or what is she, really?
[He sighs.]
I know it's... It's silly of me to wonder these things, when we have much larger problems at hand, but. For as much trouble as she's caused... Ugh, you mustn't tell Estinien this, please, but. I think... She may very well have saved both our lives. And while I don't approve of her using him the way she did...
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...I just feel I owe her some kind of understanding, at the very least.
[It's obvious that she's suffering greatly, and who knows for how long she's had to deal with that on her own...]
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[At least, by forcing Ryunosuke to have a cooler head and not upset her again.]
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I... That's not a terrible idea, actually, but... It could prove dangerous. I'm not sure I could ask you in good conscience to put yourself at risk like that...
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[Yeah he's worried about Yuya getting statued again :/]
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But you got him out of it, right?
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[No, he doesn't know how, and he's not going to ask her, either.]
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I guess if you need any help, you can let me know. I'm willing to try?
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...I do appreciate that. Let me... Let me think on it a bit. If we do go, we should probably go in with a plan...