Mnh. It's not that. He said the sword cut the water, and then they got away... ...but he also said, he didn't say 'I'm here to fight you!', like heroes in books.

...I said, that was probably why he lost. But... ...I guess even though he cut her water, she probably would have been stronger than him still...so I wasn't right...

[She sort of feels like she was Very Mean to Herbert now.]